Chill Spike

Dissecting the lunacy of conservatives from another angle.

Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Vietnam protestors right afterall

After all the cliched patriotic banter we hear from the kneejerk flag waving Right, about how protesting the war in Vietnam was wrong and how John Kerry was a liar, and how the left are traitors, we finally have the truth:

LaTimes - VIETNAM: THE WAR CRIMES FILES

Abuses were not confined to a few rogue units, a Times review of the files found. They were uncovered in every Army division that operated in Vietnam.

This is a stunning indictment on how the U.S. Military conducts itself and more evidence of why Abu Graib is probably no isolated event. This is a pattern. We did it to the Native Americans, we did it in Vietnam, and we are doing it in Iraq. The U.S. Military has a problem screening people who like to do bad things when they are given a weapon or power over others. It's that simple. They didn't address it then and they only half-heartingly address it today. Generals will cite percentages and how they are low compared to troop numbers but similiar enemy percentages do not keep them from accessing some enemy activites as threats or from taking action against them. I'm not out to bash the U.S. Military - I want them to have a good image around the world. But we need a much tougher filtering process, guys. Frankly, I'm not at all surprised we have conduct issues overseas. In most military institutions we can't even get fellow recruits to treat their own fellow citizens respectfully. ( Hence the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy". If the typical American soldier didn't have a propensity for gay bashing, there would be no need to keep it hush).

One can only imagine what will be revealed 30 + years hence from the war in Iraq as the Right takes a similar stance against war protestors today. This is not about Left or Right or treason, however. Objecting to the way the United States wages war and conducts itself overseas has a legitimate function and, as we now see many years too late for the victims in Vietnam, a legitimate basis in reality.

Saturday, August 05, 2006

Gen Pace on Iraq...

A telling contradictory statement from General Peter Pace at the recent Capital Hill hearing on Iraq:

Source:

Quote from TracyPress:
Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has succinctly summarized how Iraq can move away from the abyss of chaos. “Shiite and Sunni are going to have to love their children more than they hate each other,” Pace told the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday.

:End Quote

I submit, given the suffering and death the invasion of Iraq has brought on its children, that this statement from the general is obscene. If I was the Iraqi president or ambassador I would be absolutely livid right now. Who are the americans to be counseling deliberation and restraint in Iraq?

This appears to be an absolutely sickeningly hypocritical statement that calls for further elaboration and justification on the part of General Pace.

Do I fundamentally disagree with General Pace's suggestion? No. However,

1.) It's a little late to be advocating "love" in Iraq

and

2.) One of the architects of civilian deaths in Iraq is certainly not qualified to counsel everyone else on the importance of valuing children to avoid conflict


I urge everyone concerned with American policy and our international relations to request an explanation from General Pace:

Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff

9999 Joint Staff Pentagon
Washington, DC 20318-9999